Discuss the possibility of Groudon-Primal being banned from the SM Balanced Hackmons tier. As in Hackmon mechanics, Groudon-Primal can be directly selected as a form to use and this is what the discussion is about; do not diverse the discussion by talking about Red Orb normal Groudon. Use this thread to discuss Groudon-Primal’s effect on the metagame. Talk about the different sets it can use, possible partners and team support, and potential checks and counters. State your opinion on whether you think it should be banned or if it should stay in SM Balanced Hackmons. All opinions are valid, and discussion amongst players is not only allowed but encouraged, provided your judgment is backed with sound reasoning and validation coming from experience having played with / against Groudon-Primal in the tier. Do not simply say "it's broken" or "it's not broken”, and do not make arguments via theorymoning. Check out the sample sets for Groudon-Primal if you want to test more possible sets of it. Check out the Guide to Suspect Posting before getting started if you are unsure of anything.