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[Released] Pokémon Through the Generations: Snorlax

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    I have only one minor problem with this article thus far:

    "Pokemon such as Alakazam and Azelf even sought out the Street Fighter legends to learn their own variation of the Hadouken, Focus Blast, which was a fighting move that can pressure Snorlax even with his girth giving him massive special defense."

    Azelf can't learn Focus Blast. :(

    Maybe Gengar instead? That was certainly a revolutionary change for Gengar in Gen 4, even if the fabled MysticGar was probably more common bcus Scizor.
     
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    Huh, yeah thanks for pointing that out. Gengar is indeed a good mention for that in its place. I also put a note in the GSC section for Belly Drum, so I don't have to awkwardly mention the mechanic of the +2 boost in the BW opener.
     
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    Get out the ban hammer again, I'm breaking rules left and right with these double posts!

    Anyway, bumping because after I write up the remainder of gen 6 - which is really just going to be another paragraph because there's not much to say from gen 5 - this is mainly going to be done aside from adding a few things here and there to each generation. I'm still refining DP and BW's sections. If you think there's anything worth talking about be sure to tell me, probably missed a thing or two which is why I'll start to skim through it. I'm surprised at how short I made gen 1, but things were extremely simple back then anyway in terms of what was in the game.
     
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    Maybe add a look to the future section? In Gen7, Gengar gets cursed by Arceus and gets cursed body. Lax can EQ it once again! It also gains a unique Z-Move.
    I have no problems with you bumping your own articles, so it's ok LOL!
     
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    I advanced this to [WIP] since that's probably overdue. Discussing changes for Generation 7 could be a nice addition as long as it stays brief. If you don't want to discuss Gen 7, that is fine too because the article has plenty of content already. Also, at some point (probably when you're finished with the writing), please change the alignment of the body text because center-aligned paragraphs don't look good.
     
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    This can probably be advanced to grammar by tomorrow. I'll probably talk about how Snorlax got a new contender for special tanks/walls in Sylveon(maybe not since it's not UU anymore I don't think) and Florges but other than that I'll just be repeating gen 5 by writing any more. Gonna go through and do some last minute touch ups throughout tonight, but otherwise GP can probably start fixing my mistakes.

    I'm definitely done with the overview through ADV, unless anyone thinks there's something pertinent I missed.
     
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    Shifted this to [Grammar] cause I wanted to ninja E.T. on this article.
    Actually, no, I am assuming you can finish your touchups before GP gets to work hence the shift!
     
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    if you're still editing the content, I'd rather you not put the title as grammar because the article is actually not ready for grammar and we don't want someone checking this when there are still changes to made; it just confuses everyone :(
     
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    Yeah, go ahead and check it. Unless someone else really feels like something else needs to be added I can't think of much else to say lol. There wasn't that much change to it from gen 5 to 6.
     
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    Content-wise, I think everything looks good. For Gen 6, you could probably mention Snorlax trying to wear an Assault Vest and it not fitting due to his girth -- referring to Assault Vest Snorlax being a possibility that Gen 6 introduced that was typically inferior to other sets due to it being too uncomfortable to Rest in. If you don't want to add it, that's fine though.

    I think it is okay to start working on Grammar Patrol. This article is long enough that you might not want to try to check everything at once anyway, so if you are concerned about Gen 6 content possibly changing, just save that for a bit later.
     
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    Bouncing off what E.T. said, I'm not changing generations 1 through 5 or the overview, so feel absolutely free to grammar check those sections.

    I feel this is the kind of article best done in sections anyway, both whIle writing it and grammar checking it.
     
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    GP CHECK; all spoilers contain edits and copypaste under them

    overview
    Happily gorging itself on the competitive scene since Red and Blue (or Green if you're in Japan), Snorlax has never fallen so far from grace to be directly outclassed by any one pPokemon. From RBY to DPPt, it remained battling with the best of them in the OU tier, and only in recent generations has the power creep slowly pushed Snorlax down into UU. Even in this tier, it remains a top threat, and something thata Pokemon you should always keep in mind when building your team.

    Happily gorging itself on the competitive scene since Red and Blue (or Green if you're in Japan), Snorlax has never fallen so far from grace to be directly outclassed by any Pokemon. From RBY to DPP, it remained battling with the best of them in the OU tier, and only in recent generations has the power creep slowly pushed Snorlax down into UU. Even in this tier, it remains a top threat, and a Pokemon you should always keep in mind when building your team.

    gen 1

    In Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow, Snorlax had the foundations of a good pPokemon down pat. Lots ofA high Attack stat, tons of bulk, and a move pool to handle almost any situation that hits low Speed wouldn't hinder himit in. Probably the best thingrait about Snorlax in this generation is that it was so powerful yet simple to use. Give himit Body Slam, Selfd-Destruct, and choose between Earthquake, Surf, or Hyper Beam for the remaining two moves depending on what your team has problems with. Then start making himit jump on things, cause with some eEarthquakes, and show those Rock -types that you can be the next Snorlax Phelps.
    Amnesia wais also an option, allowing Snorlax to show off hits impressive butterfly strokes and sweep like Slowbro does, trading out special STAB moves for the ability to beat Chansey by using Body Slam and the ability to shock opposing wWater -types with Thunderbolt. Ice Beam and Blizzard tend to be more commonplace than Surf,; however, if you want to style oan opponents with your water ballet training, Surf is a viable option that hits Lapras for .5x effectiveness rathslightly better than .25x______, (what are you comparing the move to? replace the __ with that please) which can be relevant in some team builds.
    And remember, when all else fails, just turn yourself into fireworks to inspire the rest of your team to victory! Seldf-Destruct is Snorlax's best tool to deal some hefty damage when it's just about ready to fall back asleep after taking hefty amounts of punishment, and was the another reason as to why its base 110 aAttack stat made it an amazing pPokemon.


    In Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow, Snorlax had the foundations of a good Pokemon down pat. A high Attack stat, tons of bulk, and a movepool to handle almost any situation that its low Speed wouldn't hinder it in. Probably the best trait about Snorlax in this generation is that it was so powerful yet simple to use. Give it Body Slam, Self-Destruct, and choose between Earthquake, Surf, or Hyper Beam for the remaining two moves depending on what your team has problems with. Then start making it jump on things with some Earthquakes, and show those Rock-types that you can be the next Snorlax Phelps.
    Amnesia is also an option, allowing Snorlax to show off its impressive butterfly strokes and sweep like Slowbro does, trading out special STAB moves for the ability to beat Chansey by using Body Slam and the ability to shock opposing Water-types with Thunderbolt. Ice Beam and Blizzard tend to be more commonplace than Surf; however, if you want to style an opponent with your water ballet training, Surf is a viable option that hits Lapras slightly better than ______, which can be relevant in some team builds.
    And remember, when all else fails, just turn yourself into fireworks to inspire the rest of your team to victory! Self-Destruct is Snorlax's best tool to deal some hefty damage when it's just about ready to fall back asleep after taking hefty amounts of punishment and was another reason as to why its base 110 Attack stat made it an amazing Pokemon.

    gen 2
    Theis picture very accurately depicts Snorlax's standing in GSC. HeIt is the undisputed gGod, the one that stands above all others and demands tribute in bBerries and poffins. HeIt's the reason why Skarmory is actually good in the tier, and why the otherwise dreaded Electric -types run Thunder over Thunderbolt. Aside from the things it forces other Pokemon to do, Snorlax had three things added to its arsenal whichthat made it ascend from being a mere champion to divinity in hits own right. HeIt even discarded hits ability to be a special sweeper in order to level the playing field for the mere mortals heit shares the OU tier with, due to the sSpecial stat from gGen 1 splitting into 2two separate stats.
    The first was Curse, the move that has made itSnorlax so deadly. Its training with Red at the peak of Mt. Silver allowed it to mend its sub par Defense and take its impressive Attack stat to new heights. This complemented its high HP and sSpecial dDefense, making it extremely intimidating to any special attacker that wasn't an eEeveelution using Growth. Whether you went the slow and steady route with Body Slam, went a little more proactive with Return, or went full on attack mode with Double -Edge, Curse LSnorlax gave teams a never before seen inevitability factor. Steel -types can handle Snorlax's normal technique of "jump on them and let gravity do the rest,;" however, this is why Snorlax developed the Earthquake technique, which was "jump up and let gravity do the rest."
    You had to win the battle of attrition with Snorlax, slowly weakening it and narrowing opportunities to rRest so your Pokemon could find a moment to slay the beast while weakened. Even a Cross Chop from Machamp failed to 2HKO Snorlax after it spouted obscenities at the fopponent, and letting it Curse twice without any answer usually means that you've won the match outside of the RNG goddess blessing you with crits or wasting turns PP stalling. And remember, Gengar can't run away from your massive girth causing Earthquakes after cursing this gen! (I don't understand what you're saying here) And even if he could, Snorlax has been watching Street Fighter videos, developing his own technique that would help him greatly later on...
    Lovely Kiss and Belly Drum were the other two thingmoves Snorlax learned how to do in GSC, and both completely flipped games on their heads. Snorlax could whisper sweet nothings into its counter's ear as it falls asleep with Lovely Kiss and then beat the counter like an a red-headed stepchild. Meanwhile, Belly Drum brought out the warrior spirit of sSnorlax, pounding its stomach and challenging teams to take +6 Body Slams to the face. Lovely Kiss could even be used on this set as well to lull Skarmory or Steelix into a sweet dream. It's a mercy really, as seeing a +6 Snorlax in the air coming down towards you would probably give them a heart attack anyway. Snorlax is so bulky, it could even afford to run Rest with a bBelly dDrum set, for when your opponent outplays you - because if Snorlax was at the helm of a team it would never lose - and allow himit to attempt another sweep later in the match. Another thing to note is that pounding yourits stomach is never a bad idea, as even below 50% HP, Belly Drum still gave youit a +2 Attack boost.
    It really cannot be overstated how good of a pPokemon Snorlax is in this generation. Combined with the above gains, it still retains Fire Blast, which is now very relevant against Skarmory, Forretress, and Steelix. It can combat Gengar and Raikou with Earthquake, and "BOOM!" Snorlax is of course still a threat carrying over from its RBY set. Snorlax is always a pPokemon you must prepare for; if you don't, be prepared to be smited by the newly ascended Kanto gatekeeper.


    This picture very accurately depicts Snorlax's standing in GSC. It is the undisputed God, the one that stands above all and demands tribute in Berries and poffins. It's the reason why Skarmory is actually good in the tier, and why the otherwise dreaded Electric-types run Thunder over Thunderbolt. Aside from the things it forces other Pokemon to do, Snorlax had three things added to its arsenal that made it ascend from being a mere champion to divinity in its own right. It even discarded its ability to be a special sweeper in order to level the playing field for the mere mortals it shares the OU tier with due to the Special stat from Gen 1 splitting into two separate stats.
    The first was Curse, the move that has made Snorlax so deadly. Its training with Red at the peak of Mt. Silver allowed it to mend its subpar Defense and take its impressive Attack stat to new heights. This complemented its high HP and Special Defense, making it extremely intimidating to any special attacker that wasn't an Eeveelution using Growth. Whether you went the slow and steady route with Body Slam, went a little more proactive with Return, or went full on attack mode with Double-Edge, Curse Snorlax gave teams a never before seen inevitability factor. Steel-types can handle Snorlax's normal technique of "jump on them and let gravity do the rest;" however, this is why Snorlax developed the Earthquake technique, which was "jump up and let gravity do the rest."
    You had to win the battle of attrition with Snorlax, slowly weakening it and narrowing opportunities to Rest so your Pokemon could find a moment to slay the beast while weakened. Even a Cross Chop from Machamp failed to 2HKO Snorlax after it spouted obscenities at the foe, and letting it Curse twice without any answer usually means that you've won the match outside of the RNG goddess blessing you with crits or wasting turns PP stalling. And even if he could, Snorlax has been watching Street Fighter videos, developing his own technique that would help him greatly later on...
    Lovely Kiss and Belly Drum were the other two moves Snorlax learned in GSC, and both completely flipped games on their heads. Snorlax could whisper sweet nothings into its counter's ear as it falls asleep with Lovely Kiss and then beat the counter like an a red-headed stepchild. Meanwhile, Belly Drum brought out the warrior spirit of Snorlax, pounding its stomach and challenging teams to take +6 Body Slams to the face. Lovely Kiss could even be used on this set as well to lull Skarmory or Steelix into a sweet dream. It's a mercy really, as seeing a +6 Snorlax in the air coming down towards you would probably give them a heart attack anyway. Snorlax is so bulky, it could even afford to run Rest with a Belly Drum set, for when your opponent outplays you — because if Snorlax was at the helm of a team it would never lose — and allow it to attempt another sweep later in the match. Another thing to note is that pounding its stomach is never a bad idea, as even below 50% HP, Belly Drum still gave it a +2 Attack boost.
    It really cannot be overstated how good of a Pokemon Snorlax is in this generation. Combined with the above gains, it still retains Fire Blast, which is now very relevant against Skarmory, Forretress, and Steelix. It can combat Gengar and Raikou with Earthquake, and "BOOM!" Snorlax is of course still a threat carrying over from its RBY set. Snorlax is always a Pokemon you must prepare for; if you don't, be prepared to be smited by the newly ascended Kanto gatekeeper.

    That's all for now, please check the edits before implementing. I have some comments. Overall, nice article, although I feel that you try a bit too much with the colloquialism / humour, but the content mustn't be less than the humour; else, it doesn't read very well and this is meant to be an informative - as well as funny - article.

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    gen 3
    After seeing the peak he could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary Pokemon. With the advent of a new generation, it was surprising to see that everything had improved while it had taken time to rest. With the new Generation introducing new abilities, new moves, and new Pokemon to battle, Snorlax quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle for the new challenges the Generation had to bring!
    The two abilities Snorlax learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous Berries Snorlax ate through its life and the latter a consequence of his appetite. Despite some Pokemon being horrified by gaining weight, a Snorlax is a true sumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth it can gain and using it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax can just take a nap mid-game to clear away status.
    There were a few other important changes as well. The Pokemon deities decided that other Pokemon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed Pokemon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its Defense against special attacks was still top notch. Curse largely made physical attacks not much of a problem; however, it would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokemon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and utilised Calm Mind, allowing them to meditate on defeating the sumo God.
    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared foes to see in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam is very much prefered with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of Defense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double-Edge. Rest was still on the set, because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks the tier could bring this Generation, while Curse allowed it to tank even Choice Band-boosted attacks. Earthquake was still a very strong move, since it now hits the new prevalant Steel-types Jirachi and Metagross along with the Pokemon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, as it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as well as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi and Metagross.
    The main thing that had to change about Snorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar had Levitate, meaning Snorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were inneffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained Snorlax to use its own Hadouken. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other Pokemon gathered together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the
    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Self-Destruct. Even Skarmory, which neglected their Defense EV training, was forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the Choice Band around its head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Shoryuken Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take two if Spikes were set for Snorlax to take advantage of. For the grounded Steel-types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow Ball still took care of Gengar. Who would have known Ghost-types are so weak to zoning?

    After seeing the peak he could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary pPokemon. With the advent of a new generation, it was ecstaticsurprising to see that everything had improved while heit had taken some time to rest. With everything havthe new Generation introducing new abilities, learning new moves, and having new pPokemon to battle, Snorlax himself quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle ready for the new challenges the gGeneration had to bring!
    The two abilities Snorlax chose to learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous bBerries Snorlax ate through hits life and the latter a consequence of his appetite. Despite some pPokemon being horrified by gaining weight, a Snorlax is a true Ssumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth heit can gain, and useding it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax can just take a nap mid battl-game to clear away status.
    There were a few other important changes as well. The pPokemon deities decided that other pPokemon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed pPokemon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat anymore. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its dDefense against special attacks was still top notch. Curse largely made physical attacks not much of a problem,; however, it would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokemon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and developutilised the Calm Mind move, allowing them the ability to meditate on defeating the sumo gGod.
    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared fopponents to see in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam is very much prefered with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of dDefense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double -Edge. Rest was still on the set, because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks the tier could bring this gGeneration, while Cursinge allowed himit to weathertank even Choice Band enhanc-boosted attacks. Earthquake was still a very strong move, since it now hits the new prevealant Steel -types Jirachi and Metagross along with the pPokemon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, beingas it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as whilell as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi orand Metagross.
    The main thing that had to change about hiSnorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar could nowhad Levitate, meaning hiSnorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were inneffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained himSnorlax to use hits own Hadouken. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other pPokemon gathered together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the foul mouthed Satsui no Hado weilding Sumo warrior. Who's still a God of Snore. (don't understand and this is getting off-topic)
    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Selfd-Destruct. Even Skarmory, whoich neglected their Defense EV training, wereas forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the bChoice Band around hits head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Shoryuken Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take 2 uppercutstwo (uppercuts = sky uppercut? replace with actual move please) if Spikes were set for LSnorlax to take advantage of. For the non-flyinggrounded Steel -types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow bBall still took care of Gengar. Who would have known gGhost-types are so weak to zoning?

    READ COMMENTS, DON'T JUST C/P because there are some issues

    like I said above I really don't mind humour but the sumo/God/Goku jokes are getting a bit too much and it makes it sound slightly, how you say, childish or exaggerated. I think you should tone it down.

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    There's not a single Goku/DBZ joke or reference in there lol.

    I'll take some time to tone the references down for people not too knowledgeable of Street Fighter since I know someone is taking issue. That's why I asked about the tone earlier in the thread.

    Shouldn't need to change any of your edits to do so, though if I do I'll post about it to let you know.

    --- Post updated ---
    Any changes to Sobi's corrections are in blue or crossed out in red.

    OVERVIEW
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    Happily gorging itself on the competitive scene since Red and Blue(or Green if you're in Japan), Snorlax has never fallen so far from grace to be directly outclassed by any one pokemon. From RBY to DPPt it remained battling with the best of them in the OU tier, and only in recent generations has the power creep slowly pushed Snorlax down into UU. Even in this tier it remains a top threat, and something that you should always keep in mind when building your team.

    GENERATION 1 (or just RBY)
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    In Pokemon Red, Blue, and Yellow, Snorlax had the foundations of a good Pokemon down pat. A high Attack stat, tons of bulk, and a movepool to handle almost any situation that its low Speed wouldn't hinder it in. Probably the best trait about Snorlax in this generation is that it was so powerful yet simple to use. Give it Body Slam, Self-Destruct, and choose between Earthquake, Surf, or Hyper Beam for the remaining two moves depending on what your team has problems with. Then start making it jump on things with some Earthquakes, and show those Rock-types that you can be the next Snorlax Phelps.

    Amnesia is also an option, allowing Snorlax to show off its impressive butterfly strokes and sweep like Slowbro does, trading out special STAB moves for the ability to beat Chansey by using Body Slam and the ability to shock opposing Water-types with Thunderbolt. Ice Beam and Blizzard tend to be more commonplace than Surf; however, if you want to style an opponent with your water ballet training, Surf is a viable option that hits Lapras slightly better than Blizzard, which can be relevant in some team builds.

    And remember, when all else fails, just turn yourself into fireworks to inspire the rest of your team to victory! Self-Destruct is Snorlax's best tool to deal some hefty damage when it's just about ready to fall back asleep after taking hefty amounts of punishment and was another reason as to why its base 110 Attack stat made it an amazing Pokemon.


    Generation 2 (or GSC

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    This picture very accurately depicts Snorlax's standing in GSC. It is the undisputed God, the one that stands above all and demands tribute in Berries and poffins. It's the reason why Skarmory is actually good in the tier, and why the otherwise dreaded Electric-types run Thunder over Thunderbolt. Aside from the things it forces other Pokemon to do, Snorlax had three things added to its arsenal that made it ascend from being a mere champion to divinity in its own right. It even discarded its ability to be a special sweeper in order to level the playing field for the mere mortals it shares the OU tier with due to the Special stat from Gen 1 splitting into two separate stats.

    The first was Curse, the move that has made Snorlax so deadly. Its training with Red at the peak of Mt. Silver allowed it to mend its subpar Defense and take its impressive Attack stat to new heights. This complemented its high HP and Special Defense, making it extremely intimidating to any special attacker that wasn't an Eeveelution using Growth. Whether you went the slow and steady route with Body Slam, went a little more proactive with Return, or went full on attack mode with Double-Ed ge, Curse Snorlax gave teams a never before seen inevitability factor. Steel-types can handle Snorlax's normal technique of "jump on them and let gravity do the rest;" however, this is why Snorlax developed the Earthquake technique, which was "jump up and let gravity do the rest." Aware that these moves could be beaten, Snorlax studied Street Fighter videos it received from Gouken and learned the Shadow Ball technique, a Ghost move that would serve it well in the next Generation. (I still want to include some reference to Street Fighter in there, and it's important to note it has Shadow Ball this generation seeing its impact in future ones.)

    You had to win the battle of attrition with Snorlax, slowly weakening it and narrowing opportunities to Rest so your Pokemon could find a moment to slay the beast while weakened. Even a Cross Chop from Machamp failed to 2HKO Snorlax after it spouted obscenities at the foe, and letting it Curse twice without any answer usually means that you've won the match outside of the RNG goddess blessing you with crits or wasting turns PP stalling. And even if he could, Snorlax has been watching Street Fighter videos, developing his own technique that would help him greatly later on...
    Lovely Kiss and Belly Drum were the other two moves Snorlax learned in GSC, and both completely flipped games on their heads. Snorlax could whisper sweet nothings into its counter's ear as it falls asleep with Lovely Kiss and then beat the counter like an a red-headed stepchild. Meanwhile, Belly Drum brought out the warrior spirit of Snorlax, pounding its stomach and challenging teams to take +6 Body Slams to the face. Lovely Kiss could even be used on this set as well to lull Skarmory or Steelix into a sweet dream. It's a mercy really, as seeing a +6 Snorlax in the air coming down towards you would probably give them a heart attack anyway. Snorlax is so bulky, it could even afford to run Rest with a Belly Drum set, for when your opponent outplays you — because if Snorlax was at the helm of a team it would never lose — and allow it to attempt another sweep later in the match. Another thing to note is that pounding its stomach is never a bad idea, as even below 50% HP, Belly Drum still gave it a +2 Attack boost.

    It really cannot be overstated how good of a Pokemon Snorlax is in this generation. Combined with the above gains, it still retains Fire Blast, which is now very relevant against Skarmory, Forretress, and Steelix. It can combat Gengar and Raikou with Earthquake, and "BOOM!" Snorlax is of course still a threat carrying over from its RBY set. Snorlax is always a Pokemon you must prepare for; if you don't, be prepared to be smited by the newly ascended Kanto gatekeeper.

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    After seeing the peak he could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary Pokemon. With the advent of a new generation, it was surprising to see that everything had improved while it had taken time to rest. With the new Generation introducing new abilities, new moves, and new Pokemon to battle, Snorlax quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle for the new challenges the Generation had to bring!

    The two abilities Snorlax learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous Berries Snorlax ate through its life and the latter a consequence of his appetite. Despite some Pokemon being horrified by gaining weight, a Snorlax is a true sumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth it can gain and using it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax can just take a nap mid-game to clear away status.

    There were a few other important changes as well. The Pokemon deities decided that other Pokemon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed Pokemon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its Special Defense against special attacks was still top notch. Curse largely made physical attacks not much of a problem; however, it would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokemon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and utilised Calm Mind to boost their Special Attack, allowing them to meditate on defeating the sumo Godwarrior.

    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared foes to see in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam is very much preferred with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of Defense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double-Edge. Rest was still on the set, because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks the tier could bring this Generation, while Curse allowed it to tank even Choice Band-boosted attacks. Earthquake was still a very strong move, since it now hits the new prevalant Steel-types Jirachi and Metagross along with the Pokemon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, as it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as well as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi and Metagross.

    The main thing that had to change about Snorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar had Levitate, meaning Snorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were inneffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained Snorlax to use its own Hadouken in the last Generation. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other Pokemon gathered together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the sumo warrior.

    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Self-Destruct. Even Skarmory, which neglected their Defense EV training, was forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the Choice Band around its head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Shoryuken (Removing the word completely) Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take two Returns if Spikes were set for Snorlax to take advantage of. For the grounded Steel-types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow Ball still took care of Gengar. Who would have known Ghost-types are so weak to zoning?


    About the sumo references - Sumo is Japan's national sport and there's even an episode where Snorlax is in a sumo match. The pokemon resembles what a sumo wrestler would aspire to; being as bulky and unmovable as possible(one of the heaviest pokemon, Curse and slow starting speed) while still being strong and athletic(110 attack). The way I reference it could be changed to appear less childish but it fits perfectly.

    Going to go through the article to limit any use of it being a god to Generation 2 though, since that's the gen that has the god of war picture.​
     
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    i just feel that the humour/anime references exceed the information and i don't like that... but idk maybe it's just me.

    i don't want to gp the rest now buuuut could you PLEASE change all his/him to its/it for consistency. i'm sick of changing it every time; same for Pokemon and stat names :/ thanks
     
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    Yeah ill go through tonight. Started using "him" and "he" and didn't stop due to wanting to be consistent.
     
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    Towards the end I didn't feel like changing the sentence structure to conform to a gender neutral pronoun without sounding repetitious at one or two points. I think I have most instances of "he" changed to "it," pokemon changed to Pokémon and stats capitalized when specifically mentioning a stat and not just "special attacks" or "special bulk."


    Still need to go through gen 6 and the closing thoughts but I did DP and BW. Got busy last night with other things.

    Edit: Yes DP and BW are ready for a grammar check. Changing Gen 6 and the ending so it both conforms to grammar more accurately(so less work for you grammar nazis) and to make sure I don't want to add anything or make it read more smoothly.

    I edited the base post for those sections so the gen 1, 2 and 3 parts will not have Sobi's changes yet. Going to c/p everything when the whole article is GP approved.
     
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    I think we should stress over the fact that the articles needs to conform to the pkmn grammar rules.
    While the content is pretty neat and I nothing much to say on it rn. I think you should neuter all the pronouns. I mean, this isn't Hitmonchan or such.
     
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    I take it this means Gen 4 and Gen 5 are ready for GP now? Gen 4's alignment still needs to be change to right-aligned. Please post once you've had a chance to go through Gen 6 and the conclusion.
     
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    Okay, I believe the rest of the article is ready for a GP read over.

    For clarification that should only be gens 4, 5, 6 and the closing statements that need checking unless someone wants to make any changes to this.
     
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    I think only the last part needs any editing. I had mentioned in a previous post about it.
    Also correct the point that says Pursuit hits dark types. Would be finished after the last part is done and GPd! :D
     
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    Okay I'm 99% sure I neutered all the mentions of "him" from DP onward in the OP, since I'm gonna c/p sobi's earlier check after the rest gets GP'd.

    Also got the "pursuit nabs psychic and dark type" mention.
     
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    After seeing the peak heit could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary Pokeémon. With the advent of a new generation, itSnorlax was surprisinged to see that everything had improved while it had taken time to rest. With the new Generation introducing new abilities, new moves, and new Pokeémon to battle, Snorlax quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle for the new challenges the Generation had to bring!

    The two abilities Snorlax learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous Berries Snorlax had eaten throughout its life and the latter a consequence of hits appetite. Despite some Pokeémon being horrified by gaining weight, a Snorlax is a true sumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth it can gain and using it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax canould just take a nap mid-game to clear away status.

    There were a few other important changes as well. The Pokeémon deities decided that other Pokeémon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed Pokeémon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its Special Defense against special attacks was still top notch. Curse largely madeprevented physical attackers notfrom being much of a problem; however, itSnorlax would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokeémon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and utiliszed Calm Mind to boost their Special Attack, allowing them to meditate on defeating the sumo Godwarrior.

    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared foes to see in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam iwas very much preferred with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of Defense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double-Edge. Rest was still on the set, because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks that the tier could bring this Generation, while. Curse allowed it to tank even Choice Band-boosted attacks.

    Earthquake was still a very strong move, since it now hits the new prevalaent Steel-types, Jirachi and Metagross, along with the Pokeémon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, as it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as well as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi and Metagross.
    The main thing that had to change about Snorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar had Levitate, meaning Snorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were inneffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained Snorlax to use its own Hadouken in the last Generation. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other Pokeémon gathered together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the sumo warrior.

    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Self-Destruct. Even Skarmory, which neglected theirits Defense EV training, was forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the Choice Band around its head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Shoryuken (Removing the word completely) Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take two Returns if Spikes were set for Snorlax to take advantage of. For the grounded Steel-types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow Ball still took care of Gengar. Who would have known Ghost-types awere thiso weak to zoning?

    After seeing the peak it could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary Pokémon. With the advent of a new generation, Snorlax was surprised to see that everything had improved while it had taken time to rest. With the new Generation introducing new abilities, new moves, and new Pokémon to battle, Snorlax quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle for the new challenges the Generation had to bring!

    The two abilities Snorlax learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous Berries Snorlax had eaten throughout its life and the latter a consequence of its appetite. Despite some Pokémon being horrified by gaining weight, Snorlax is a true sumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth it can gain and using it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax could just take a nap mid-game to clear away status.

    There were a few other important changes as well. The Pokémon deities decided that other Pokémon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed Pokémon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its Special Defense was still top notch. Curse largely prevented physical attackers from being much of a problem; however, Snorlax would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokémon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and utilized Calm Mind to boost their Special Attack, allowing them to meditate on defeating the sumo warrior.

    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared foes in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam was very much preferred with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of Defense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double-Edge. Rest was still on the set because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks that the tier could bring this Generation. Curse allowed it to tank even Choice Band-boosted attacks.

    Earthquake was still a very strong move since it now hits the new prevalent Steel-types, Jirachi and Metagross, along with the Pokémon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, as it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as well as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi and Metagross.

    The main thing that had to change about Snorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar had Levitate, meaning Snorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were ineffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained Snorlax to use its own Hadouken in the last Generation. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other Pokémon together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the sumo warrior.

    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Self-Destruct. Even Skarmory, which neglected its Defense EV training, was forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the Choice Band around its head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take two Returns if Spikes were set. For the grounded Steel-types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow Ball still took care of Gengar. Who would have known Ghost-types were this weak to zoning?
    I did a check from this post. When you make changes, don't forget to leave a text-only version so that the next person can easily start checking from your latest changes.

    Snorlax was still in a good spot from ADV. Its special bulk and Attack stat still made it stand out as a premier tank among OU titans such as Tyranitar and Dragonite. The main thing that was catching up to Snorlax was its love of sleep and lack of drive. Content with being past its prime after GSC and ADV, it wasbecame lax on its training routines. And as it got lazy, other pokePokémon saw their chance to grab the spotlight and went for it.

    One thing that started Snorlax's fall from being a top tier competitor was the physical/special split. You see, nNow that Arceus had revealed itself, it fielded a lot of complaints about certain Pokémon - like a certain Fire-type Eevee evolution - not living up to their potential since their typing was mismatched with their offensive stats. "Physical" moves use the Attack stat, and "special" moves use the Special Attack stat. So nowAfter there were physical/special split, Dark-type moves like Bite and Crunch that could use the Attack stat instead of the Special Attack stat. Tyranitar loved this, as did every physical Dragon types, and other pokePokémon like Gyarados loved this because they could finally live up to their potential. Pokémon such as Alakazam and Gengar even sought out the Street Fighter legends to learn their own variation of the Hadouken, Focus Blast, which was a Fighting-type move that canould pressure Snorlax even widespite the fact that its girth givingave it massive Special Defense.

    Unfortunately, all this change was not kind to Snorlax. You see, Snorlax's biggest weakness iwas that it has thatd low starting Defense. Curse canould mend it, howeverbut it needsed time for it to work. Now that thingsPokémon like Dragonite hadcould use their massive Attack stats with thingmoves like Outrage and even Dragon Claw to throw around thanksdue to them being physical moves now, Snorlax had a much more difficult time setting itself up at its slow and steady pace. Gyarados and Scizor had new ways to intimidate and damage it with their newfound physical moves. Its Shadow Ball could no longer be nearly as effective since Arceus turned it into a Sspecial attack. With Focus Blast becoming a Fighting-type special move, Snorlax now had to watch out for certain pokePokémon trying to out-zone it with their own projectiles.

    Luckily, Crunch helpsed Snorlax use its voracious appetite to take a chunk out of Ghosts. With some training from Ken, its Fire Punch became a physical move, able to uppercut Steel types such as Scizor and Forretress who could take neutral damage from Earthquake. Snorlax still had to be wary of half the competition gaining ways to pressure it like never before,; however, with these moves utilizing its Attack stat, it managed to stay an OU competitor.

    Other items started to be discovered as well, though among them Life Orb was the most important regarding Snorlax. It didn't use the orb, howeverbut it augmented opposing Pokémon that gained physical moves out of the split and made it a nightmare for Snorlax to keep up with physical and even some special attackers, thanks to them learning how to fire off Hadoukens themselves in the form of Focus Blast.

    Even though things were looking down for Snorlax this generation, it was very comfortably in OU thanks to several factors. It was still a premier special tank, it's just thabut it had to be wary of the new physical attacks and Focus Blasts from other pokePokémon. If heSnorlax connectsed a hit with its Choice Band boosted attacks, anything that iwasn't built to be bulky iwas not going to be in a good spot afterward. Thick Fat iwas extremely relevant in athe tier withsince Heatran was everywhere. Curse Snorlax was still a monster to watch for, as a +1 Snorlax can't be KO'd by the LO Close Combats in the tier without being weakened a bit beforehand. Ultimately, Snorlax was just rendered a bit worse in OU due to things changing around it, while not changing or adapting enough itself.
    Snorlax was still in a good spot from ADV. Its special bulk and Attack stat still made it stand out as a premier tank among OU titans such as Tyranitar and Dragonite. The main thing that was catching up to Snorlax was its love of sleep and lack of drive. Content with being past its prime after GSC and ADV, it became lax on its training routines. As it got lazy, other Pokémon saw their chance to grab the spotlight and went for it.

    One thing that started Snorlax's fall from being a top tier competitor was the physical/special split. Now that Arceus had revealed itself, it fielded a lot of complaints about certain Pokémon—like a certain Fire-type Eevee evolution—not living up to their potential since their typing was mismatched with their offensive stats. "Physical" moves use the Attack stat, and "special" moves use the Special Attack stat. After the physical/special split, Dark-type moves like Bite and Crunch could use the Attack stat instead of the Special Attack stat. Tyranitar, physical Dragon types, and other Pokémon like Gyarados loved this because they could finally live up to their potential. Pokémon such as Alakazam and Gengar even sought out the Street Fighter legends to learn their own variation of the Hadouken, Focus Blast, which was a Fighting-type move that could pressure Snorlax despite the fact that its girth gave it massive Special Defense.

    Unfortunately, all this change was not kind to Snorlax. Snorlax's biggest weakness was that it had low starting Defense. Curse could mend it, but it needed time work. Now that Pokémon like Dragonite could use their massive Attack stat with moves like Outrage and Dragon Claw due to them being physical moves now, Snorlax had a much more difficult time setting itself up at its slow and steady pace. Gyarados and Scizor had new ways to intimidate and damage it with their newfound physical moves. Its Shadow Ball could no longer be nearly as effective since Arceus turned it into a special attack. With Focus Blast becoming a Fighting-type special move, Snorlax now had to watch out for certain Pokémon trying to out-zone it with their own projectiles.

    Luckily, Crunch helped Snorlax use its voracious appetite to take a chunk out of Ghosts. With some training from Ken, its Fire Punch became a physical move, able to uppercut Steel types such as Scizor and Forretress who could take neutral damage from Earthquake. Snorlax still had to be wary of half the competition gaining ways to pressure it like never before; however, with these moves utilizing its Attack stat, it managed to stay an OU competitor.

    Other items started to be discovered as well, though among them Life Orb was the most important regarding Snorlax. It didn't use the orb, but it augmented opposing Pokémon that gained physical moves out of the split and made it a nightmare for Snorlax to keep up with physical and even some special attackers, thanks to them learning how to fire off Hadoukens themselves in the form of Focus Blast.

    Even though things were looking down for Snorlax this generation, it was very comfortably in OU thanks to several factors. It was still a premier special tank, but it had to be wary of the new physical attacks and Focus Blasts from other Pokémon. If Snorlax connected a hit with its Choice Band boosted attacks, anything that wasn't bulky was not going to be in a good spot afterward. Thick Fat was extremely relevant in the tier since Heatran was everywhere. Curse Snorlax was still a monster to watch for, as a +1 Snorlax can't be KO'd by the LO Close Combats in the tier without being weakened a bit beforehand. Ultimately, Snorlax was just rendered a bit worse in OU due to things changing around it, while not changing or adapting enough itself.

    A couple of things to note about Generation 5. First, Yawn existed, so Snorlax still technically had a way to put things to sleep. Secondly, permanent weather was actually introduced in Generation 3, but Politoed and Ninetales learned Drizzle and Drought, respectively. My grammar check offers alternatives in the areas where these were mentioned.
    By the time Generation 5 came around, Snorlax was already weary of all the new Pokémon and the changes happening before it. Snorlax longed for the simpler OU days, where all its stats could be at their full potential, Belly Drum still gave +2 while at half health, and putting opposing Pokémon to sleep by whispering into their ear was an option. However, the changes this generation brought finally made Snorlax give in. Ourquit. The Sumo warrior moved back to its mountain home and gorged on its collection of berries, distraught that it had let itself fall thiso low. That' is when Snorlax saw a letter on the front porch, stamped by Arcanine, Heracross and Shaymin. AIt was an invitation to the UU tier and a welcome buffet!

    OU was not kind to ourthe Sumo warrior, as the introduction of both Terrakion and Conkledurr already signaled massive trouble for our Normal type. this, along with the introduction ofSnorlax. In addition, Politoed and Ninetales learned how to summon permanent weather, and this made Snorlax's job of being an effective special tank nearly impossible with thingssince Pokémon like Keldeo could attacking its Defense with Sspecial attacks. Snorlax whileas also still being greatly pressured by powerful physical attackers like Dragonite getting buffed. The introduction of Tornadus and other mixed attackers, as well as not gaining anything new from Arceus, ultimately drove Snorlax away from OU.

    this is where tThe UU tier comes in, which was a much more forgiving environment. Snorlax thrived in the tier, proving capable of checking the massively powerful Darmanitan's monstrously powerful Flare Blitz, being able to challenge Victini, completely blanking out Chandelure, and otherwise matching up favorably against many of the special attackers that found their way into the tier. With its great Attack stat, Snorlax could wrap its (Choice) Band around its head and pressure the likes of Shaymin, Raikou and Zapdos. Pokeémon such as Heracross and Scrafty posed a threat, to Snorlax; however, they couldn't take a Sumo warrior pouncing on them while they switched into battle.

    As arguably the best special tank of the tier, Snorlax had a few sets it could be found running. Base 110 Attack iwas still very strong, and even though it hwasn't been fighting in OU he, Snorlax still practicesd its Shoryukens and Sumo moves. Pursuit was a mainstay on Snorlax this generation, as heit would imagine that the prominent Psychic- or Ghost-type Pokémon switching out was a poffin he needed to catch. Fire Punch was still very much useful, as it let Snorlax muscle past Bronzong or Escavalier, and it did hit Roserade and Shaymin as they tried to jump into battle. Body Slam iwas largely preferred if Snorlax iwas not found with its Choice Band wrapped around its head, as the paralysis from jumping on opponents and bear hugging them iwas too good to pass up in many instances. AndIn addition, if Snorlax thinksought it' was going to fight the more hefty Ghost or Psychic types like Cofagrigus or Mew, instead of Chandelure or Alakazam, Crunch iwas always useful. Of course, Slowbro iwas weak to a second monster taking a nibble onut of it as well.

    Snorlax didn't discard its foul mouth going into UU either. Curse was a monster of a set that gave Snorlax's team a win condition. It could be used in two ways: either Snorlax embracesd its drowsy nature and usesd Sleep Talk to cuss peoplePokémon out in its sleep, or it was proactive with it,and yellinged profanities while charging straight at themits foes. Using Curse and 3 attacking moves gave Snorlax a pseudo Choice Band, allowing it to pressure enemy teams that relied on special attackers. It'The set was used to throw Snorlax's weight at enemy teams to soften them up. The Curse + Rest Talk set iwas more like laying siege to the kitchen's pantry and fridge rather than blasting through a buffet devouring everything as quickly as possible; it happensed nice and slow, until youit inevitably breakoke through and gorge on yourits victory. One very key thing Snorlax had to keep in mind, however, iwas that it could no longer tag out aton a whim after sleeping. Because of the new Ssleep mechanics in Generation 5, heSnorlax had to wait out the 2 turns Rest makesde Snorlax sleep, or the counter would reset.

    Even though Snorlax was forced out of OU, it enjoyed its new home in UU and embraced its new role in the tier. Never broken but never outclassed in what he does, heit did, Snorlax reigned supreme as top Sumo warrior throughout the generation.
    By the time Generation 5 came around, Snorlax was already weary of all the new Pokémon and the changes happening before it. Snorlax longed for the simpler OU days, where all its stats could be at their full potential, Belly Drum still gave +2 while at half health, and putting opposing Pokémon to sleep by whispering into their ear was an option. However, the changes this generation brought finally made Snorlax quit. The Sumo warrior moved back to its mountain home and gorged on its collection of berries, distraught that it had let itself fall this low. That is when Snorlax saw a letter on the front porch, stamped by Arcanine, Heracross and Shaymin. It was an invitation to the UU tier and a welcome buffet!

    OU was not kind to the Sumo warrior, as the introduction of both Terrakion and Conkledurr already signaled massive trouble for Snorlax. In addition, Politoed and Ninetales learned how to summon permanent weather, and this made Snorlax's job of being an effective special tank nearly impossible since Pokémon like Keldeo could attack its Defense with special attacks. Snorlax was also still being greatly pressured by powerful physical attackers like Dragonite. The introduction of Tornadus and other mixed attackers, as well as not gaining anything new from Arceus, ultimately drove Snorlax away from OU.

    The UU tier was a much more forgiving environment. Snorlax thrived in the tier, proving capable of checking the massively powerful Darmanitan's monstrously powerful Flare Blitz, being able to challenge Victini, completely blanking out Chandelure, and otherwise matching up favorably against many of the special attackers that found their way into the tier. With its great Attack stat, Snorlax could wrap its Choice Band around its head and pressure the likes of Shaymin, Raikou and Zapdos. Pokémon such as Heracross and Scrafty posed a threat to Snorlax; however, they couldn't take a Sumo warrior pouncing on them while they switched into battle.

    As arguably the best special tank of the tier, Snorlax had a few sets it could be found running. Base 110 Attack was still very strong, and even though it wasn't fighting in OU, Snorlax still practiced its Shoryukens and Sumo moves. Pursuit was a mainstay on Snorlax this generation, as it would imagine that the prominent Psychic- or Ghost-type Pokémon switching out was a poffin he needed to catch. Fire Punch was still very useful, as it let Snorlax muscle past Bronzong or Escavalier, and it did hit Roserade and Shaymin as they tried to jump into battle. Body Slam was largely preferred if Snorlax was not found with its Choice Band wrapped around its head, as the paralysis from jumping on opponents and bear hugging them was too good to pass up in many instances. In addition, if Snorlax thought it was going to fight the more hefty Ghost or Psychic types like Cofagrigus or Mew, instead of Chandelure or Alakazam, Crunch was always useful. Of course, Slowbro was weak to a second monster taking a nibble out of it as well.

    Snorlax didn't discard its foul mouth going into UU either. Curse was a monster of a set that gave Snorlax's team a win condition. It could be used in two ways: either Snorlax embraced its drowsy nature and used Sleep Talk to cuss Pokémon out in its sleep, or it was proactive and yelled profanities while charging straight at its foes. Using Curse and 3 attacking moves gave Snorlax a pseudo Choice Band, allowing it to pressure enemy teams that relied on special attackers. The set was used to throw Snorlax's weight at enemy teams to soften them up. The Curse + Rest Talk set was more like laying siege to the kitchen's pantry and fridge rather than blasting through a buffet devouring everything as quickly as possible—it happened nice and slow until it inevitably broke through and gorge on its victory. One key thing Snorlax had to keep in mind, however, was that it could no longer tag out on a whim after sleeping. Because of the new sleep mechanics in Generation 5, Snorlax had to wait out the 2 turns Rest made Snorlax sleep, or the counter would reset.

    Even though Snorlax was forced out of OU, it enjoyed its new home in UU and embraced its new role in the tier. Never broken but never outclassed in what it did, Snorlax reigned supreme as top Sumo warrior throughout the generation.

    WhichThis pretty much sums up itSnorlax's tenure in XY and ORAS. As Arceus kept adding new pokePokémon and giving existing Pokémones new forms, Snorlax got the cold shoulder. A Mega Stone wasn't created for it, it couldn't evolve further, and it did not gain a move like Slack Off that could take its Sumo wrestling to the next level. Although OU was becoming further out of reach, UU was still Snorlax's new home, aso its welcomed new pokePokémon to itsthe UU ranks and continued to be a top class pokePokémon in the tier.

    There's truly was not much that changed for our Sumo warrior from last generation. Curselax was once again its strongest set thanks to the sleep counter no longer resetting after switching out, meaning heSnorlax did not have to sit there as a Fighting type's punching bag. Snorlax has kept its Choice Band around since its had great success with it since ADV, and withby Pursuit trapping the powerful gGhosts and Psychic types in the tier, Snorlax could still be the boogeyman of many frail special attackers with its high Attack stat and Special bulk. Its Choice Band also giaves Snorlax a reason to practice its Shoryuken, as Fire Punch iwas relevant on Choice Band sets for some of the sSteels and gGrass types that awere still great in UU.

    The only notable change iwas that there were simply more threats in UU forwith which Snorlax had to contend with. Mega evolutions especially pressured its ability to be a tank as many of them were physical threats that preyed on itSnorlax's weaker Defense, and monsters like Mega Blastoise had Aura Sphere to do very respectable damage to it.

    It'There has been a running theme of the generations: not much changes about Snorlax, but things constantly change around it to the point where heit gets overwhelmed by all of the new threats. With all of the new, monstrous, bulky physical attackers like Salamence and Mega Swampert, special attackers that can boost up to overcome Snorlax's special bulk like Suicune and Reuniclus, and mixed attackers like Hydreigon existing in this generation's UU tier, heSnorlax simply became less of an ideal Pokémon to have on your team.use.
    This pretty much sums up Snorlax's tenure in XY and ORAS. As Arceus kept adding new Pokémon and giving existing Pokémon new forms, Snorlax got the cold shoulder. A Mega Stone wasn't created for it, it couldn't evolve further, and it did not gain a move like Slack Off that could take its Sumo wrestling to the next level. Although OU was becoming further out of reach, UU was still Snorlax's home, so it welcomed new Pokémon to the UU ranks and continued to be a top class Pokémon in the tier.

    There truly was not much that changed for our Sumo warrior from last generation. Curselax was once again its strongest set thanks to the sleep counter no longer resetting after switching out, meaning Snorlax did not have to sit there as a Fighting type's punching bag. Snorlax kept its Choice Band around since it had great success with it since ADV, and by Pursuit trapping the powerful Ghost and Psychic types in the tier, Snorlax could still be the boogeyman of many frail special attackers with its high Attack stat and Special bulk. Its Choice Band also gave Snorlax a reason to practice its Shoryuken, as Fire Punch was relevant on Choice Band sets for some of the Steel and Grass types that were still great in UU.

    The only notable change was that there were simply more threats in UU with which Snorlax had to contend. Mega evolutions pressured its ability to be a tank as many of them were physical threats that preyed on Snorlax's weaker Defense, and monsters like Mega Blastoise had Aura Sphere to do very respectable damage to it.

    There has been a running theme of the generations: not much changes about Snorlax, but things constantly change around it to the point where it gets overwhelmed by all of the new threats. With all of the new, monstrous, bulky physical attackers like Salamence and Mega Swampert, special attackers that can boost up to overcome Snorlax's special bulk like Suicune and Reuniclus, and mixed attackers like Hydreigon existing in this generation's UU tier, Snorlax simply became less of an ideal Pokémon to use.

    I simply deleted the final sentence because I don't think it makes sense to write this massive article, which covers all past generations, only to appeal to BW UU, ORAS UU, and SM OU (which isn't even discussed outside of the mention of Z moves). I think the sentence that mentions Snorlax's skills would be a fine conclusion, but if you don't want to end with that, it would probably be better to end with something more all-inclusive. You also can't really say "you won't be disappointed" about SM tiers because we simply don't know how those will pan out yet.
    Only time will tell if Snorlax having's access to Z moves will make it a better Sumo wrestler, or if its Street Fighter techniques will have a bit more relevance. It'Snorlax is very proud in finally being able to run, and very excited to see what challenges it' will have to face as a new generation is sprung upon it. With the power of every new group of Pokémon creeping farther and farther, Snorlax will probably be very content to stay with the UU buffet,; however, there are still very few Pokémon that have the skills Snorlax has. If you play ORAS or BW UU, or if you jump into generation's OU tier that precedes both, give this Sumo warrior a try - you won't be disappointed!possesses.
    Only time will tell if Snorlax's access to Z moves will make it a better Sumo wrestler or if its Street Fighter techniques will have a bit more relevance. Snorlax is very proud in finally being able to run, and very excited to see what challenges it will have to face as a new generation is sprung upon it. With the power of every new group of Pokémon creeping farther and farther, Snorlax will probably be very content to stay with the UU buffet; however, there are still very few Pokémon that have the skills Snorlax possesses.
     
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    "If you play ORAS or BW UU, or if you jump into (a) generation's OU tier that precedes both"

    Aside from me being bad at proof reading and wording things in general, that was meant to mean "any OU tier before(preceding) Generation 5." Though I agree with the line about its skills being a solid ending.

    Didn't think of Yawn since it's shit on Snorlax to be honest. It's a valid point in the context of the article though, thanks for pointing it out. That goes triple for the weather, was only thinking in terms of permanent conditions being in OU but needed clarification in this context. Things like this are why I kept asking for input as I wrote the sections.

    I've made very small changes, like one part where it read "Curse could mend it, but it needed time work" so put "to" in there. I've reworded a part in GSC so it sounds a bit less reference dependent, probably obvious where it is.

    I'll edit in all the pictures when I do the final edit to the OP; this is what looks to be the final draft with E.T.'s latest checks and Sobi's overview, gen 1 and gen 2 checks put together:

    OVERVIEW
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    Happily gorging itself on the competitive scene since Red and Blue(or Green if you're in Japan), Snorlax has never fallen so far from grace to be directly outclassed by any one Pokémon. From RBY to DPPt it remained battling with the best of them in the OU tier, and only in recent generations has the power creep slowly pushed Snorlax down into UU. Even in this tier it remains a top threat, and something that you should always keep in mind when building your team.

    GENERATION 1 (or just RBY)
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    In Pokémon Red, Blue, and Yellow, Snorlax had the foundations of a good Pokémon down pat. A high Attack stat, tons of bulk, and a movepool to handle almost any situation that its low Speed wouldn't hinder it in. Probably the best trait about Snorlax in this generation is that it was so powerful yet simple to use. Give it Body Slam, Self-Destruct, and choose between Earthquake, Surf, or Hyper Beam for the remaining two moves depending on what your team has problems with. Then start making it jump on things with some Earthquakes, and show those Rock-types that you can be the next Snorlax Phelps.

    Amnesia is also an option, allowing Snorlax to show off its impressive butterfly strokes and sweep like Slowbro does, trading out special STAB moves for the ability to beat Chansey by using Body Slam and the ability to shock opposing Water-types with Thunderbolt. Ice Beam and Blizzard tend to be more commonplace than Surf; however, if you want to style an opponent with your water ballet training, Surf is a viable option that hits Lapras slightly better than Blizzard, which can be relevant in some team builds.

    And remember, when all else fails, just turn yourself into fireworks to inspire the rest of your team to victory! Self-Destruct is Snorlax's best tool to deal some hefty damage when it's just about ready to fall back asleep after taking hefty amounts of punishment and was another reason as to why its base 110 Attack stat made it an amazing Pokémon.


    Generation 2 (or GSC

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    This picture very accurately depicts Snorlax's standing in GSC. It is the undisputed God, the one that stands above all and demands tribute in Berries and poffins. It's the reason why Skarmory is actually good in the tier, and why the otherwise dreaded Electric-types run Thunder over Thunderbolt. Aside from the things it forces other Pokémon to do, Snorlax had three things added to its arsenal that made it ascend from being a mere champion to divinity in its own right. It even discarded its ability to be a special sweeper in order to level the playing field for the mere mortals it shares the OU tier with due to the Special stat from Gen 1 splitting into two separate stats.

    The first was Curse, the move that has made Snorlax so deadly. Its training with Red at the peak of Mt. Silver allowed it to mend its subpar Defense and take its impressive Attack stat to new heights. This complemented its high HP and Special Defense, making it extremely intimidating to any special attacker that wasn't an Eeveelution using Growth. Whether you went the slow and steady route with Body Slam, went a little more proactive with Return, or went full on attack mode with Double-Edge, Curse Snorlax gave teams a never before seen inevitability factor. Steel-types can handle Snorlax's normal technique of "jump on them and let gravity do the rest;" however, this is why Snorlax developed the Earthquake technique, which was "jump up and let gravity do the rest." Snorlax also learned how to use Shadow Ball from certain Street Fighter legends, and although the move is not helpful in this generation, it would serve it greatly later on.

    You had to win the battle of attrition with Snorlax, slowly weakening it and narrowing opportunities to Rest so your Pokémon could find a moment to slay the beast while weakened. Even a Cross Chop from Machamp failed to 2HKO Snorlax after it spouted obscenities at the foe, and letting it Curse twice without any answer usually means that you've won the match outside of the RNG goddess blessing you with crits or wasting turns PP stalling.

    Lovely Kiss and Belly Drum were the other two moves Snorlax learned in GSC, and both completely flipped games on their heads. Snorlax could whisper sweet nothings into its counter's ear as it falls asleep with Lovely Kiss and then beat the counter like an a red-headed stepchild. Meanwhile, Belly Drum brought out the warrior spirit of Snorlax, pounding its stomach and challenging teams to take +6 Body Slams to the face. Lovely Kiss could even be used on this set as well to lull Skarmory or Steelix into a sweet dream. It's a mercy really, as seeing a +6 Snorlax in the air coming down towards you would probably give them a heart attack anyway. Snorlax is so bulky, it could even afford to run Rest with a Belly Drum set, for when your opponent outplays you — because if Snorlax was at the helm of a team it would never lose — and allow it to attempt another sweep later in the match. Another thing to note is that pounding its stomach is never a bad idea, as even below 50% HP, Belly Drum still gave it a +2 Attack boost.

    It really cannot be overstated how good of a Pokémon Snorlax is in this generation. Combined with the above gains, it still retains Fire Blast, which is now very relevant against Skarmory, Forretress, and Steelix. It can combat Gengar and Raikou with Earthquake, and Self-Destruct Snorlax is still a threat carrying over from its RBY set. Snorlax is always a Pokémon you must prepare for; if you don't, be prepared to be smited by the newly ascended Kanto gatekeeper.

    GENERATION 3 (or ADV)
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    After seeing the peak it could reach, Snorlax looked down from its mountain home and noticed a boredom at being the world's strongest, non-legendary Pokémon. With the advent of a new generation, Snorlax was surprised to see that everything had improved while it had taken time to rest. With the new Generation introducing new abilities, new moves, and new Pokémon to battle, Snorlax quickly learned two abilities and jumped straight back into the fray, ready to battle for the new challenges the Generation had to bring!

    The two abilities Snorlax learned were Immunity and Thick Fat, the former being trained by all the poisonous Berries Snorlax had eaten throughout its life and the latter a consequence of its appetite. Despite some Pokémon being horrified by gaining weight, Snorlax is a true sumo warrior, taking advantage of whatever girth it can gain and using it to combat the incredibly powerful Regice. Immunity, although useful at times, was largely unneeded because Snorlax could just take a nap mid-game to clear away status.

    There were a few other important changes as well. The Pokémon deities decided that other Pokémon were feeling too privileged about their stats and disallowed Pokémon from being able to have 255 EVs in every stat. This was both a help and a hindrance, as Snorlax needed to adjust its training to make sure its Special Defense was still top notch. Curse largely prevented physical attackers from being much of a problem; however, Snorlax would train against them to combat the new Choice Band that was recently discovered. Pokémon like Suicune and Raikou took note of how Eevee's evolutions could possibly muscle past Snorlax and utilized Calm Mind to boost their Special Attack, allowing them to meditate on defeating the sumo warrior.

    Snorlax's Curse set still proved to make it one of the most feared foes in ADV. The core of the set was the same, except Body Slam was very much preferred with the EV changes to this generation. Since everything couldn't have the maximum amount of Defense possible at all times, it gave Snorlax a much easier time deciding on Body Slam rather than needing the raw damage of Return or Double-Edge. Rest was still on the set because Snorlax didn't need to worry much about the special attacks that the tier could bring this Generation. Curse allowed it to tank even Choice Band-boosted attacks.

    Earthquake was still a very strong move since it now hits the new prevalent Steel-types, Jirachi and Metagross, along with the Pokémon it was effective against before. Fire Blast was still a relevant move from its GSC glory days, as it was able to break Gengar's Substitute while nabbing a 2HKO on Skarmory and an OHKO on Forretress, as well as not leaving it completely helpless against Jirachi and Metagross.

    The main thing that had to change about Snorlax's fighting style was the fact that Gengar had Levitate, meaning Snorlax's tactics of "jump and let Gravity do work" were ineffective. This is why Snorlax got in touch with Gouken, who trained Snorlax to use its own Hadouken in the last Generation. Not wanting to breach copyright, Snorlax gathered the other Pokémon together and named it "Shadow Ball." With this technique, Gengar still had to fear being defeated by the sumo warrior.

    Choice Band allowed Snorlax to immediately hit the field and threaten many team compositions with an enormously powerful STAB Self-Destruct. Even Skarmory, which neglected its Defense EV training, was forced to bow to it. By paying homage to Ryu and wrapping the Choice Band around its head, there weren't many things that liked taking an unresisted Choice Band Return. Even bulky Swampert could not take two Returns if Spikes were set. For the grounded Steel-types, Earthquake dealt with them quite handily off of its great Attack stat, while Shadow Ball still took care of Gengar. Who would have known Ghost-types were this weak to zoning?

    GENERATION 4

    Snorlax was still in a good spot from ADV. Its special bulk and Attack stat still made it stand out as a premier tank among OU titans such as Tyranitar and Dragonite. The main thing that was catching up to Snorlax was its love of sleep and lack of drive. Content with being past its prime after GSC and ADV, it became lax on its training routines. As it got lazy, other Pokémon saw their chance to grab the spotlight and went for it.

    One thing that started Snorlax's fall from being a top tier competitor was the physical/special split. Now that Arceus had revealed itself, it fielded a lot of complaints about certain Pokémon—like a certain Fire-type Eevee evolution—not living up to their potential since their typing was mismatched with their offensive stats. "Physical" moves use the Attack stat, and "special" moves use the Special Attack stat. After the physical/special split, Dark-type moves like Bite and Crunch could use the Attack stat instead of the Special Attack stat. Tyranitar, physical Dragon types, and other Pokémon like Gyarados loved this because they could finally live up to their potential. Pokémon such as Alakazam and Gengar even sought out the Street Fighter legends to learn their own variation of the Hadouken, Focus Blast, which was a Fighting-type move that could pressure Snorlax despite the fact that its girth gave it massive Special Defense.

    Unfortunately, all this change was not kind to Snorlax. Snorlax's biggest weakness was that it had low starting Defense. Curse could mend it, but it needed time work. Now that Pokémon like Dragonite could use their massive Attack stat with moves like Outrage and Dragon Claw due to them being physical moves now, Snorlax had a much more difficult time setting itself up at its slow and steady pace. Gyarados and Scizor had new ways to intimidate and damage it with their newfound physical moves. Its Shadow Ball could no longer be nearly as effective since Arceus turned it into a special attack. With Focus Blast becoming a Fighting-type special move, Snorlax now had to watch out for certain Pokémon trying to out-zone it with their own projectiles.

    Luckily, Crunch helped Snorlax use its voracious appetite to take a chunk out of Ghosts. With some training from Ken, its Fire Punch became a physical move, able to uppercut Steel types such as Scizor and Forretress who could take neutral damage from Earthquake. Snorlax still had to be wary of half the competition gaining ways to pressure it like never before; however, with these moves utilizing its Attack stat, it managed to stay an OU competitor.

    Other items started to be discovered as well, though among them Life Orb was the most important regarding Snorlax. It didn't use the orb, but it augmented opposing Pokémon that gained physical moves out of the split and made it a nightmare for Snorlax to keep up with physical and even some special attackers, thanks to them learning how to fire off Hadoukens themselves in the form of Focus Blast.

    Even though things were looking down for Snorlax this generation, it was very comfortably in OU thanks to several factors. It was still a premier special tank, but it had to be wary of the new physical attacks and Focus Blasts from other Pokémon. If Snorlax connected a hit with its Choice Band boosted attacks, anything that wasn't bulky was not going to be in a good spot afterward. Thick Fat was extremely relevant in the tier since Heatran was everywhere. Curse Snorlax was still a monster to watch for, as a +1 Snorlax can't be KO'd by the LO Close Combats in the tier without being weakened a bit beforehand. Ultimately, Snorlax was just rendered a bit worse in OU due to things changing around it, while not changing or adapting enough itself.

    GENERATION 5

    By the time Generation 5 came around, Snorlax was already weary of all the new Pokémon and the changes happening before it. Snorlax longed for the simpler OU days, where all its stats could be at their full potential, Belly Drum still gave +2 while at half health, and putting opposing Pokémon to sleep by whispering into their ear was an option. However, the changes this generation brought finally made Snorlax quit. The Sumo warrior moved back to its mountain home and gorged on its collection of berries, distraught that it had let itself fall this low. That is when Snorlax saw a letter on the front porch, stamped by Arcanine, Heracross and Shaymin. It was an invitation to the UU tier and a welcome buffet!

    OU was not kind to the Sumo warrior, as the introduction of both Terrakion and Conkledurr already signaled massive trouble for Snorlax. In addition, Politoed and Ninetales learned how to summon permanent weather, and this made Snorlax's job of being an effective special tank nearly impossible since Pokémon like Keldeo could attack its Defense with special attacks. Snorlax was also still being greatly pressured by powerful physical attackers like Dragonite. The introduction of Tornadus and other mixed attackers, as well as not gaining anything new from Arceus, ultimately drove Snorlax away from OU.

    The UU tier was a much more forgiving environment. Snorlax thrived in the tier, proving capable of checking the massively powerful Darmanitan's monstrously powerful Flare Blitz, being able to challenge Victini, completely blanking out Chandelure, and otherwise matching up favorably against many of the special attackers that found their way into the tier. With its great Attack stat, Snorlax could wrap its Choice Band around its head and pressure the likes of Shaymin, Raikou and Zapdos. Pokémon such as Heracross and Scrafty posed a threat to Snorlax; however, they couldn't take a Sumo warrior pouncing on them while they switched into battle.

    As arguably the best special tank of the tier, Snorlax had a few sets it could be found running. Base 110 Attack was still very strong, and even though it wasn't fighting in OU, Snorlax still practiced its Shoryukens and Sumo moves. Pursuit was a mainstay on Snorlax this generation, as it would imagine that the prominent Psychic- or Ghost-type Pokémon switching out was a poffin he needed to catch. Fire Punch was still very useful, as it let Snorlax muscle past Bronzong or Escavalier, and it did hit Roserade and Shaymin as they tried to jump into battle. Body Slam was largely preferred if Snorlax was not found with its Choice Band wrapped around its head, as the paralysis from jumping on opponents and bear hugging them was too good to pass up in many instances. In addition, if Snorlax thought it was going to fight the more hefty Ghost or Psychic types like Cofagrigus or Mew, instead of Chandelure or Alakazam, Crunch was always useful. Of course, Slowbro was weak to a second monster taking a nibble out of it as well.

    Snorlax didn't discard its foul mouth going into UU either. Curse was a monster of a set that gave Snorlax's team a win condition. It could be used in two ways: either Snorlax embraced its drowsy nature and used Sleep Talk to cuss Pokémon out in its sleep, or it was proactive and yelled profanities while charging straight at its foes. Using Curse and 3 attacking moves gave Snorlax a pseudo Choice Band, allowing it to pressure enemy teams that relied on special attackers. The set was used to throw Snorlax's weight at enemy teams to soften them up. The Curse + Rest Talk set was more like laying siege to the kitchen's pantry and fridge rather than blasting through a buffet devouring everything as quickly as possible—it happened nice and slow until it inevitably broke through and gorge on its victory. One key thing Snorlax had to keep in mind, however, was that it could no longer tag out on a whim after sleeping. Because of the new sleep mechanics in Generation 5, Snorlax had to wait out the 2 turns Rest made Snorlax sleep, or the counter would reset.

    Even though Snorlax was forced out of OU, it enjoyed its new home in UU and embraced its new role in the tier. Never broken but never outclassed in what it did, Snorlax reigned supreme as top Sumo warrior throughout the generation.

    GENERATION 6
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    This pretty much sums up Snorlax's tenure in XY and ORAS. As Arceus kept adding new Pokémon and giving existing Pokémon new forms, Snorlax got the cold shoulder. A Mega Stone wasn't created for it, it couldn't evolve further, and it did not gain a move like Slack Off that could take its Sumo wrestling to the next level. Although OU was becoming further out of reach, UU was still Snorlax's home, so it welcomed new Pokémon to the UU ranks and continued to be a top class Pokémon in the tier.

    There truly was not much that changed for our Sumo warrior from last generation. Curselax was once again its strongest set thanks to the sleep counter no longer resetting after switching out, meaning Snorlax did not have to sit there as a Fighting type's punching bag. Snorlax kept its Choice Band around since it had great success with it since ADV, and by Pursuit trapping the powerful Ghost and Psychic types in the tier, Snorlax could still be the boogeyman of many frail special attackers with its high Attack stat and Special bulk. Its Choice Band also gave Snorlax a reason to practice its Shoryuken, as Fire Punch was relevant on Choice Band sets for some of the Steel and Grass types that were still great in UU.

    The only notable change was that there were simply more threats in UU with which Snorlax had to contend. Mega evolutions pressured its ability to be a tank as many of them were physical threats that preyed on Snorlax's weaker Defense, and monsters like Mega Blastoise had Aura Sphere to do very respectable damage to it.

    There has been a running theme of the generations: not much changes about Snorlax, but things constantly change around it to the point where it gets overwhelmed by all of the new threats. With all of the new, monstrous, bulky physical attackers like Salamence and Mega Swampert, special attackers that can boost up to overcome Snorlax's special bulk like Suicune and Reuniclus, and mixed attackers like Hydreigon existing in this generation's UU tier, Snorlax simply became less of an ideal Pokémon to use.

    CONCLUSION

    Only time will tell if Snorlax's access to Z moves will make it a better Sumo wrestler or if its Street Fighter techniques will have a bit more relevance. Snorlax is very proud in finally being able to run, and very excited to see what challenges it will have to face as a new generation is sprung upon it. With the power of every new group of Pokémon creeping farther and farther, Snorlax will probably be very content to stay with the UU buffet; however, there are still very few Pokémon that have the skills Snorlax possesses. If you find yourself playing an OU tier in RBY through DPPt, or if you're playing BW2 or ORAS UU, give Snorlax a try on your team. You won't be disappointed!


    Though I still want to say something to the effect of "try this thing out in one of these tiers" at the end. If it doesn't sound good I'm fine with ending on the skills line though.
     
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    This can be updated somewhat,,

    Closing statements

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    With the advent of Generation 7, Snorlax is finally happy to be able to run again! It gets access to a unique Z-Move that befits its status as a Sumo Warrior. The aptly named Pulverizing Pancake makes use of Snorlax's massive bulk and Sumo training under E.Honda (The reference can be nixed) channeled through its Giga Impact! The ever so moody Arceus probably felt bored and starting cursing random Pokemon, Gengar being a prime target who lost its Levitate ability and gained Cursed Body. This only made poor Gengar susceptible to Snorlax's wrath or otherwise known as Earthquake once again!
    Will this be enough for Snorlax to rise up to OU again, or will it remain in UU like it was since BW? Let's see!​
     
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    >finally able to run again
    Has Snorlax ever been able to run with anything less than the extreme energy boost provided by the Z Move?

    I think that the ending is better as it is because it references more topics discussed throughout the article. I think it would also be better for the conclusion to remain in present or future tense since Generation 7 isn't in the past yet.

    "If you find yourself playing any of the tiers through which Snorlax has traversed on its journey through the generations, be sure to give it a try because Snorlax is a true Sumo warrior!" -- or something to that effect could probably work.
     
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    @pokemonnerd after you've had a chance to add the last sentence and update the OP, I'll be ready to update this to [Final].
     
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    Okay, OP has been edited. Just need to fix the headings to be uniform throughout the article.

    "If you find yourself playing one of the tiers this Sumo warrior has trained in over the Generations, be sure to use it on your team; Snorlax won't disappoint!"

    That's what I went with, @Joyverse and @E.T.
     
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    It seems that you missed adding Sobi's grammar changes for the Overview.

    Happily gorging itself on the competitive scene since Red and Blue (or Green if you're in Japan), Snorlax has never fallen so far from grace to be directly outclassed by any Pokémon. From RBY to DPP, it remained battling with the best of them in the OU tier, and only in recent generations has the power creep slowly pushed Snorlax down into UU. Even in this tier, it remains a top threat, and a Pokémon you should always keep in mind when building your team.

    For the headings, Generation 2 and Closing Statements should be in all caps to match the other headings. Advancing this to [Final] changes.
     
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    Got sobi's check in there now, and just changed closing statements to "CONCLUSION." And double checked that all headers are in caps. Was thinking about just writing them like normal words, aka not all caps but I'll see what you guys think.

    Otherwise unless someone sees any more potential problems it should be good.
     
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    Seems all good. You could bring the caps down and italicize it maybe. Another suggestion is to slash HGSS alongwith DPPt and ORAS with XY but that's just me.
     
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    Apply any of my suggested changes from my above post if you want to (Those are aesthetic changes after all).
    Your OP is ready to be posted in the main part of the forum tho. I intend to get this and QD released within this week js.
     
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    After looking at it I decided that I like the headers capitalized and underlined so those are gonna be unchanged unless another person thinks it looks better another way. I did put in the "DPPt&HGSS" and the ORAS next to XY, since it looks more appealing than a slash to me.
     
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    More minor changes. Most of these are just for consistency.
    By the time Generation 5 came around, Snorlax was already weary of all the new Pokémon and the changes happening before it. Snorlax longed for the simpler OU days, where all its stats could be at their full potential, Belly Drum still gave +2 while at half health, and putting opposing Pokémon to sleep by whispering into their ear was an option. However, the changes this generation brought finally made Snorlax quit. The Ssumo warrior moved back to its mountain home and gorged on its collection of bBerries, distraught that it had let itself fall this low. That is when Snorlax saw a letter on the front porch, stamped by Arcanine, Heracross and Shaymin. It was an invitation to the UU tier and a welcome buffet!

    OU was not kind to the Ssumo warrior, as the introduction of both Terrakion and Conkleldurr already signaled massive trouble for Snorlax. In addition, Politoed and Ninetales learned how to summon permanent weather, and this made Snorlax's job of being an effective special tank nearly impossible since Pokémon like Keldeo could attack its Defense with special attacks. Snorlax was also still being greatly pressured by powerful physical attackers like Dragonite. The introduction of Tornadus and other mixed attackers, as well as not gaining anything new from Arceus, ultimately drove Snorlax away from OU.

    The UU tier was a much more forgiving environment. Snorlax thrived in the tier, proving capable of checking the massively powerful Darmanitan's monstrously powerful Flare Blitz, being able to challenge Victini, completely blanking out Chandelure, and otherwise matching up favorably against many of the special attackers that found their way into the tier. With its great Attack stat, Snorlax could wrap its Choice Band around its head and pressure the likes of Shaymin, Raikou and Zapdos. Pokémon such as Heracross and Scrafty posed a threat to Snorlax; however, they couldn't take a Sumo warrior pouncing on them while they switched into battle.

    As arguably the best special tank of the tier, Snorlax had a few sets it could be found running. Base 110 Attack was still very strong, and even though it wasn't fighting in OU, Snorlax still practiced its Shoryukens and Ssumo moves. Pursuit was a mainstay on Snorlax this generation, as it would imagine that the prominent Psychic- or Ghost-type Pokémon switching out was a poffin he needed to catch. Fire Punch was still very useful, as it let Snorlax muscle past Bronzong or Escavalier, and it did hit Roserade and Shaymin as they tried to jump into battle. Body Slam was largely preferred if Snorlax was not found with its Choice Band wrapped around its head, as the paralysis from jumping on opponents and bear hugging them was too good to pass up in many instances. In addition, if Snorlax thought it was going to fight the more hefty Ghost- or Psychic -types like Cofagrigus or Mew, instead of Chandelure or Alakazam, Crunch was always useful. Of course, Slowbro was weak to a second monster taking a nibble out of it as well.

    Snorlax didn't discard its foul mouth going into UU either. Curse was a monster of a set that gave Snorlax's team a win condition. It could be used in two ways: either Snorlax embraced its drowsy nature and used Sleep Talk to cuss Pokémon out in its sleep, or it was proactive and yelled profanities while charging straight at its foes. Using Curse and 3three attacking moves gave Snorlax a pseudo Choice Band, allowing it to pressure enemy teams that relied on special attackers. The set was used to throw Snorlax's weight at enemy teams to soften them up. The Curse + Rest Talk set was more like laying siege to the kitchen's pantry and fridge rather than blasting through a buffet devouring everything as quickly as possible—it happened nice and slow until it inevitably broke through and gorged on its victory. One key thing Snorlax had to keep in mind, however, was that it could no longer tag out on a whim after sleeping. Because of the new sleep mechanics in Generation 5, Snorlax had to wait out the 2two turns Rest made Snorlax sleep, or the counter would reset.

    Even though Snorlax was forced out of OU, it enjoyed its new home in UU and embraced its new role in the tier. Never broken but never outclassed in what it did, Snorlax reigned supreme as top Ssumo warrior throughout the generation.
    By the time Generation 5 came around, Snorlax was already weary of all the new Pokémon and the changes happening before it. Snorlax longed for the simpler OU days, where all its stats could be at their full potential, Belly Drum still gave +2 while at half health, and putting opposing Pokémon to sleep by whispering into their ear was an option. However, the changes this generation brought finally made Snorlax quit. The sumo warrior moved back to its mountain home and gorged on its collection of Berries, distraught that it had let itself fall this low. That is when Snorlax saw a letter on the front porch, stamped by Arcanine, Heracross and Shaymin. It was an invitation to the UU tier and a welcome buffet!

    OU was not kind to the sumo warrior, as the introduction of both Terrakion and Conkeldurr already signaled massive trouble for Snorlax. In addition, Politoed and Ninetales learned how to summon permanent weather, and this made Snorlax's job of being an effective special tank nearly impossible since Pokémon like Keldeo could attack its Defense with special attacks. Snorlax was also still being greatly pressured by powerful physical attackers like Dragonite. The introduction of Tornadus and other mixed attackers, as well as not gaining anything new from Arceus, ultimately drove Snorlax away from OU.

    The UU tier was a much more forgiving environment. Snorlax thrived in the tier, proving capable of checking the massively powerful Darmanitan's monstrously powerful Flare Blitz, being able to challenge Victini, completely blanking out Chandelure, and otherwise matching up favorably against many of the special attackers that found their way into the tier. With its great Attack stat, Snorlax could wrap its Choice Band around its head and pressure the likes of Shaymin, Raikou and Zapdos. Pokémon such as Heracross and Scrafty posed a threat to Snorlax; however, they couldn't take a Sumo warrior pouncing on them while they switched into battle.

    As arguably the best special tank of the tier, Snorlax had a few sets it could be found running. Base 110 Attack was still very strong, and even though it wasn't fighting in OU, Snorlax still practiced its Shoryukens and sumo moves. Pursuit was a mainstay on Snorlax this generation, as it would imagine that the prominent Psychic- or Ghost-type Pokémon switching out was a poffin he needed to catch. Fire Punch was still very useful, as it let Snorlax muscle past Bronzong or Escavalier, and it did hit Roserade and Shaymin as they tried to jump into battle. Body Slam was largely preferred if Snorlax was not found with its Choice Band wrapped around its head, as the paralysis from jumping on opponents and bear hugging them was too good to pass up in many instances. In addition, if Snorlax thought it was going to fight the more hefty Ghost- or Psychic-types like Cofagrigus or Mew, instead of Chandelure or Alakazam, Crunch was always useful. Of course, Slowbro was weak to a second monster taking a nibble out of it as well.

    Snorlax didn't discard its foul mouth going into UU either. Curse was a monster of a set that gave Snorlax's team a win condition. It could be used in two ways: either Snorlax embraced its drowsy nature and used Sleep Talk to cuss Pokémon out in its sleep, or it was proactive and yelled profanities while charging straight at its foes. Using Curse and three attacking moves gave Snorlax a pseudo Choice Band, allowing it to pressure enemy teams that relied on special attackers. The set was used to throw Snorlax's weight at enemy teams to soften them up. The Curse + Rest Talk set was more like laying siege to the kitchen's pantry and fridge rather than blasting through a buffet devouring everything as quickly as possible—it happened nice and slow until it inevitably broke through and gorged on its victory. One key thing Snorlax had to keep in mind, however, was that it could no longer tag out on a whim after sleeping. Because of the new sleep mechanics in Generation 5, Snorlax had to wait out the two turns Rest made Snorlax sleep, or the counter would reset.

    Even though Snorlax was forced out of OU, it enjoyed its new home in UU and embraced its new role in the tier. Never broken but never outclassed in what it did, Snorlax reigned supreme as top sumo warrior throughout the generation.
    This pretty much sums up Snorlax's tenure in XY and ORAS. As Arceus kept adding new Pokémon and giving existing Pokémon new forms, Snorlax got the cold shoulder. A Mega Stone wasn't created for it, it couldn't evolve further, and it did not gain a move like Slack Off that could take its Ssumo wrestling to the next level. Although OU was becoming further out of reach, UU was still Snorlax's home, so it welcomed new Pokémon to the UU ranks and continued to be a top class Pokémon in the tier.

    There truly was not much that changed for our Ssumo warrior from last generation. Curselax was once again its strongest set thanks to the sleep counter no longer resetting after switching out, meaning Snorlax did not have to sit there as a Fighting -type's punching bag. Snorlax kept its Choice Band around since it had great success with it since ADV, and by Pursuit trapping the powerful Ghost- and Psychic -types in the tier, Snorlax could still be the boogeyman of many frail special attackers with its high Attack stat and Sspecial bulk. Its Choice Band also gave Snorlax a reason to practice its Shoryuken, as Fire Punch was relevant on Choice Band sets for some of the Steel- and Grass -types that were still great in UU.

    The only notable change was that there were simply more threats in UU with which Snorlax had to contend. Mega eEvolutions pressured its ability to be a tank as many of them were physical threats that preyed on Snorlax's weaker Defense, and monsters like Mega Blastoise had Aura Sphere to do very respectable damage to it.

    There has been a running theme of the generations: not much changes about Snorlax, but things constantly change around it to the point where it gets overwhelmed by all of the new threats. With all of the new, monstrous, bulky physical attackers like Salamence and Mega Swampert, special attackers that can boost up to overcome Snorlax's special bulk like Suicune and Reuniclus, and mixed attackers like Hydreigon existing in this generation's UU tier, Snorlax simply became less of an ideal Pokémon to use.
    This pretty much sums up Snorlax's tenure in XY and ORAS. As Arceus kept adding new Pokémon and giving existing Pokémon new forms, Snorlax got the cold shoulder. A Mega Stone wasn't created for it, it couldn't evolve further, and it did not gain a move like Slack Off that could take its sumo wrestling to the next level. Although OU was becoming further out of reach, UU was still Snorlax's home, so it welcomed new Pokémon to the UU ranks and continued to be a top class Pokémon in the tier.

    There truly was not much that changed for our sumo warrior from last generation. Curselax was once again its strongest set thanks to the sleep counter no longer resetting after switching out, meaning Snorlax did not have to sit there as a Fighting-type's punching bag. Snorlax kept its Choice Band around since it had great success with it since ADV, and by Pursuit trapping the powerful Ghost- and Psychic-types in the tier, Snorlax could still be the boogeyman of many frail special attackers with its high Attack stat and special bulk. Its Choice Band also gave Snorlax a reason to practice its Shoryuken, as Fire Punch was relevant on Choice Band sets for some of the Steel- and Grass-types that were still great in UU.

    The only notable change was that there were simply more threats in UU with which Snorlax had to contend. Mega Evolutions pressured its ability to be a tank as many of them were physical threats that preyed on Snorlax's weaker Defense, and monsters like Mega Blastoise had Aura Sphere to do very respectable damage to it.

    There has been a running theme of the generations: not much changes about Snorlax, but things constantly change around it to the point where it gets overwhelmed by all of the new threats. With all of the new, monstrous, bulky physical attackers like Salamence and Mega Swampert, special attackers that can boost up to overcome Snorlax's special bulk like Suicune and Reuniclus, and mixed attackers like Hydreigon existing in this generation's UU tier, Snorlax simply became less of an ideal Pokémon to use.
    The "over vs through" is up to you, I just think that it is a good opportunity to smoothly reference the title.
    Only time will tell if Snorlax's access to Z moves will make it a better Ssumo wrestler or if its Street Fighter techniques will have a bit more relevance. Snorlax is very proud in finally being able to run, and very excited to see what challenges it will have to face as a new generation is sprung upon it. With the power of every new group of Pokémon creeping farther and farther, Snorlax will probably be very content to stay with the UU buffet; however, there are still very few Pokémon that have the skills Snorlax possesses. If you find yourself playing one of the tiers this Ssumo warrior has trained in overthrough the Ggenerations, be sure to use it on your team: Snorlax won't disappoint!
    Only time will tell if Snorlax's access to Z moves will make it a better sumo wrestler or if its Street Fighter techniques will have a bit more relevance. Snorlax is very proud in finally being able to run, and very excited to see what challenges it will have to face as a new generation is sprung upon it. With the power of every new group of Pokémon creeping farther and farther, Snorlax will probably be very content to stay with the UU buffet; however, there are still very few Pokémon that have the skills Snorlax possesses. If you find yourself playing one of the tiers this sumo warrior has trained in through the generations, be sure to use it on your team: Snorlax won't disappoint!

    I also added the special thanks to the end. After the above changes are implemented, it will probably be ready to be approved and have a release date set.
     
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    Actually I'll gladly accept the "through" instead of "over" there. Nice title drop without over emphasizing or trying too hard.

    I'll get the rest of those changes pasted within the next 5 minutes of this posting.
     
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    Alright, I made a couple of minor fixes: "is" to "This" typo fix under XY and "Z moves" to "Z-moves". I'm advancing this to [Approved] with a tentative release date of Saturday, December 17th. I'd advise using the BBCode window when copying and pasting then if the formatting has any issues transferring.

    --post updated--

    Just to clarify, this release date is Saturday, December 17th. I had a typo previously that said the 18th, but that's a Sunday.
     
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    As a reminder, this is scheduled to be released tomorrow, Saturday, December 17th.

    Also, don't forget to add Pokémon (with the accent) to the thread title when it is posted.
     
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