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[NOC] Rivals Mafia - Game ends

Discussion in 'Forum Games' started by Pyanda, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. Latimaster

    Latimaster Member

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    I'm a town suicide player of some sort. I will still die if my target is protected. My action will not reveal roles of people killed in the process of it (flips).

    Thinking vet scum due to his actions, however I think that I always typically do so :/
    Fiery scum for obv reasons. I am skeptical because he comes across as a player who is seen as scum a lot though.
    Dreams acting carelessly. I would think that this doesn't make him scum. Dreams deserves to be scum though.
    If fiery is scum, then it makes sense for julio to be scum. But I think that it's not as simple as that. He needs to get involved by people putting votes on him, whilst not analysing him too critically.
    Rioku kinda aggressive. Thinking scum?
    Ajjockeystar is someone who I think of scum but is probably town. Quite...direct? Dunno how to say it...
    one of hopkirk/marquis scum because they be guessin my role (thinking wifom marquis, so lean marquis -3-) this is quite bad to go on though
    hopkirk/marquis/dopog I have no decent reads on.
    Aj not even let me flip! But I wasn't around anyway lol

    I was meant to die anyway :( gl town. For the record: rioku> fiery> aj> vet> julio >marquis >hopkirk >dopog >dreams (arrows arent representative of difference between reads). Wouldn't put rioku and fiery in a team together.
     
  2. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    @Marquis It's more of I think Fiery Espeon was a better target than latimaster right now. The best I could get out of latimaster was how he wasn't trying. Fiery Espeon was playing really bad and imo was a better target.
     
  3. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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  4. Hopkirk

    Hopkirk +C

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    'they be guessin my role'
    I've not mentioned your role... except after you die when you have no reason to hold anything back.

    'better target'
    Better target is such a scummy (opportunist) phrasing.

    Still going for that Fiery + Julio + other.
     
  5. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    I agree with the read on Dreams and Fiery, but the others I don't get. Especially mine. Looking at old games with Dreams he is playing the same way he did as town. I don't get the scum read on aj at all. He really hasn't done anything bad, and if you're going off that, Hopkirk would be a better choice. Now he did hammer, which is something to think about.

    I just want to clarify, where was I being aggressive? As far as I'm concerned I've been playing within the realms of reason for the first day by swapping votes out after eliciting responses from my queries. (damn I used big words) I do really hope people will consider your scum read of me, because that should help keep me alive tonight. My saying this shouldn't have any adverse effects (I hope). The longer I can stay alive the better for the town, so long as I'm getting a decent look at the hostilities between players. As it stands, I'm looking at Fiery Epeon and trying to find out who his target would be.
     
  6. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    I'd believe Latimaster if I were you. He's already lynched so I don't see a reason for him to sill lie about his role.
     
  7. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    ok so again with the Playing Bad = Scum ?
    Just because i didn't fully assess the situation doesn't automatically make me scum.
    Why do you want to see me lynched @Rioku ?
     
  8. ajhockeystar

    ajhockeystar Proud Canadian

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    Yeah after I hammered I kinda realized that there was still like 10 hours and I was like "whoops :x" but I wasn't sure if I would've been on for deadline anyways :/
     
  9. Rioku

    Rioku Not again.

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    Your play wasn't just bad, you played like you were scared. That's a really strong scum read on a player who doesn't normally play to well. In addition, your play wasn't a simple, "didn't fully assess the situation." It was more of, oh look I messed up now time to panic and defend myself so they don't think I'm scum.

    I direct you to the following posts:
    #68
    #69
    #93

    We also have how you very quickly jumped on Latimaster when you realized you could shift the vote off yourself and on to someone else. While aj did have the same number of votes as you, the likelihood of him being lynched was rather small as I would defend him and I highly doubt he would have put together a weak argument to defend himself, so, looking at the other players, Latimaster and julio were easy targets. julio would be a harder target to lynch since he isn't even active in well anything, so you targeted Latimaster who really wasn't doing anything but still maintaining activity. That was enough to give people a slight scum read on him, myself included. So you played that up and directed the vote towards him and away from yourself. Your massive omgus helped out in this case, making you easier to believe as town just trying to hard.

    I direct you to these posts now:
    #98
    #102
    #108
     
  10. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Is this maybe, the 4th time, that this has happened? People think im scum, vote me, usually i get lynched, and then i end up being village. You can check all 6 games for yourself. (SI I and II, No John, other game i played)
     
  11. Latimaster

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    Its long to organise posts on android

    @hoppykurk you still guessed even though my role wasn't revealed yet :P

    @Riokun I thought you were calling out people a lot and making a lot of arguments though. You also heavily relied on omgus, as if you wanted some bad lynch to happen from it (subtly). I didn't actually check this though :s
    hopkirk didn't hammer tho
    Your last bit about helping you not die tonight of the post im replying to is weird :s
    I wasn't voting aj on account of his hammer, I was just thinking that it was end of deadline :/ not like I'm strong scumreading him though

    I hope that different points are understandable :|
     
  12. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    Thanks for the wait.

    Latimaster was lynched Day 1. They were Town Suicide Arsonist.

    It is now Night 1. Get your actions in. Night ends about 24 hours from now give or take 6 hours.
     
  13. Latimaster

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    Why do you make me go with Fiery ?
     
  15. Pyanda

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    Shh, no talking at Night.
     
  16. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    Day 2 starts in about an hour.
     
  17. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    Hopkirk died Night 1. They were Town 1-Shot Cop.

    Day 2 starts now.

    Vote count 2.0


    dopog (0)
    Marquis (0)
    ajhockeystar (0)
    Veteran Padgett (0)
    Julio-56 (0)
    Rioku (0)
    Dreams (0)
    Fiery Espeon (0)


    5 to lynch

    Deadline is 10PM GMT 8th of November, about 100 hours from now.
     
  18. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Why kill Hopkirk?
     
  19. dopog

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    Hey fellas

    Sorry for my crap activity.

    I have this assignment due today and I kinda feel as if it's hung over me until... hopefully I hand it in today!
    I'll cya then

    Still don't approve of vet, aj's hammer is reviewable, rioku's play - not sure if accountable to change in playstyle, marquis gives mixed vibes.
    That's about it - "will" "read" when I finish this assignment.

    Till then

    vote veteran padgett
     
  20. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    vote dopog
    even with the low activity i don't think i've actually ever seen dopog like this as town
     
  21. ajhockeystar

    ajhockeystar Proud Canadian

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    But have you seen dopog like this as mafia?

    Speaking of that, has there been any game here was he was scum?
     
  22. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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  23. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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  24. ajhockeystar

    ajhockeystar Proud Canadian

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    so can u Sebbie :ooo
     
  25. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    Since Hopkirk's role was revealed, he was killed by scum. Lati said whoever they killed wouldn't flip. In #76 Hopkirk had scum reads on Fiery, Julio, and Dreams. I still think it was odd how Dreams went after Rioku so

    Vote Dreams

    I would be up for voting Julio as well.
     
  26. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    vote ajcjhojeyyyyy
     
  27. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    Actually, I think I'll trust that feeling I had earlier.

    Vote Marquis

    Do you seriously think aj is scum, or are you just not trying?
     
  28. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    noc plz
     
  29. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    i do not like aj's "no u" style response
    i've personally done it so many times as scum myself
    it serves as an effective way to end a conversation prematurely or to say something for the sake of looking active
    is that seriously an invalid concern?
     
  30. Dreams

    Dreams Active Member

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    . Vet how do you know there are 3 players in the mafia team. I dont seem to recall being given that info
     
  31. Dreams

    Dreams Active Member

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    Nvm just read back. You didn't say that hop did.
    Also vote Marquis
    After Seb's vote on lati, Julio immediately follows with zero reason, since it's his first NOC game he is probably just following his partner. At this point, Julio is almost certainly scum but Seb being the teammate could make sense
    Scum list is probably Seb Julio dopog and vet.. For now
     
  32. Marquis

    Marquis beez in the whazzit??

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    is everyone insane
     
  33. Veteran Padgett

    Veteran Padgett TFT Main Developer Developer

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    What's your reasoning for me and dopog to be scum? I don't really see how that fits into your theory of seb + julio.
     
  34. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    If you do suspect Julio + Seb, then why vote Seb? Julio seems scummier than Seb. So why vote Seb when he has a slight chance of being town?
     
  35. dopog

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    Hiya

    @Fiery Espeon; veteran's reads here; #74 appeared really mild. His suspicion of marquis seemed as if it were the most artificial thing ever. As in I don't really know why it bothered him? And I'm not really buying that it did in fact bother him.
    I guess the fake "I'm mafia" thing re: lati, is understandable and I guess it's early game so you don't "have to" have particularly strong reads but there is just this massive disconnect between "I think these guys are mafia" and what vet was saying - kinda feels like he's just trying to come up with stuff to accuse people of and it ends up being pretty not much?

    @ajhockeystar; can you please.... say real stuff?

    @Marquis; I don't know exactly what to say to you......? I guess laying it all on the table, around about the time of your exchange with aj I was thinking you + vet for mafia, but after Dreams' stuff now I sorta think you're town but kinda ticked off? I just don't know what you're thinking and trying to battle whether that's arbitrary decisions on your part or you're finding this game hard?

    @Julio-56; what do you think of rioku, fiery espeon and ajhockeystar?

    bye
     
  36. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    @Julio-56 have 7.5 hours to post before modkill.

    Vote count 2.1


    dopog (0) - Marquis
    Marquis (2) - Veteran Padgett, Dreams
    ajhockeystar (1) - Marquis
    Veteran Padgett (1) - dopog
    Julio-56 (0)
    Rioku (0)
    Dreams (0)
    - Veteran Padgett
    Fiery Espeon (0)

    5 to lynch

    Deadline is 10PM GMT 8th of November, 72 hours from now.
     
  37. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    Julio is not worth going after now, as it is likely that he will be modkilled, anyway. :c all is to hope that he is mafia. Or it is very, very, very, very bad for us.
    Anyways, i don't want to vote right now, but i eventually will. I am going to read more people's post and get better scumreads.
     
  38. Pyanda

    Pyanda New Member

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    Rioku died Day 2. They were Town Babysitter.

    Vote count 2.2

    dopog (0) - Marquis
    Marquis (2) - Veteran Padgett, Dreams
    ajhockeystar (1) - Marquis
    Veteran Padgett (1) - dopog
    Julio-56 (0)
    Dreams (0)
    - Veteran Padgett
    Fiery Espeon (0)

    4 to lynch

    Deadline is 10PM GMT 8th of November, about 70 hours from now.
     
  39. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    wat, speak up now if you are village and used a daykill on @Rioku
     
  40. Fiery Espeon

    Fiery Espeon The fire never bothered me anyway ~

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    , someone is trying to frame me. First kill Hopkirk, then kill Rioku, both who were on my case/voted me last day. i do think it's a poor attempt. And im not sure if lynching @Marquis is the wise choice here.